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Living Lucky with Jana(Banana) and Jason Shelfer

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I guarantee this is the funniest episode we have ever done here on the RYB podcast! There’s a TON of great lessons in here as well on LIVING LUCKY, enjoying your life, overcoming tragedy and more!!! Jana (Banana) Shelfer was a fixture on Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando for years. Her energy is infectious. Add in her husband Jason and you have a powerhouse Team of laughs, positivity, ingenuity and love! Another episode to listen to 2 or 3 times because there are a lot of lessons and laughs packed in here!

Be sure to catch Jana and Jason’s show every morning, their podcast and more: 
https://linktr.ee/livinglucky 

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Steven Placey
Hey, Steven Placey here with another edition of the rock your business podcast. And I have a special treat for you today. We have Jana and Jason shell for Hey, how’s it going? You guys? How are you doing? Hello, Steven.

Jana
I didn’t recognize you with the glasses, buddy.

Steven Placey
No, it’s just me. It’s just me. We can’t Yes. Right. Like we were joking, Everybody listen to the podcast. It’s gonna be the funniest podcast you’ve probably heard us do. Okay, so, and we were joking about like, isn’t it funny that Superman puts on one pair of glasses. And everybody’s like, Who’s that guy? Like, who is where did Clark go? To Superman go. So do you know that I

Jana
met Christopher Reeve? Did you? Really? Yes. I met him and I called him Superman. This was right after he became a quadriplegic. And I remember my friend, my friends, they were appalled. They were like, how could you just call a quadriplegic Superman because when I saw him, I was like, hey, Superman, I’m Jana. And he took this like, really deep breath. He was like, Hi, Jana. And then we got our picture together. And then the very next day, we were in Time magazine together.

Steven Placey
Okay. That’s, I mean, yeah, I mean, he just was a it was an amazing man. Like, it’s funny because where my office is here in Satellite Beach, Florida, the movie theater. That’s literally a two minute walk from my office. Here was where I went and saw Superman. Really digital Superman. Like, I remember that day. I remember walking in. I remember watching it was a 1978. I think so. I was all of what seven? You know,

Jana
I wasn’t born yet.

Jana
Do you know that I learned to color. I learned to color on a superman coloring book. Really? Isn’t that just it’s like the synchronicity.

Jana
I learned to jump off a house with a superman cape.

Jana
And now we’re being interviewed by Clark ganz.

Jana
Oh, sir. I love it. rocking your business like Superman. That’s right, kicking the kryptonite out of your business like Superman.

Steven Placey
I could have multiplied my business 100 times already. If I just wore the glasses.

Unknown Speaker
It’s a bird.

Unknown Speaker
Steven Placey.

Steven Placey
Whoo. All right. So anyway, my neighbors must be loving this in the office today. All right. So we do have some fun things to talk about. And, you know, as you can tell Jana Jason just awesome, amazing people like we clicked like, immediately when we first met, and just positivity, a drip positivity. They have fun. Yes, they’re married or not brother, sister. They are married and have been for how long?

Jana
15 years of the best years of your life.

Jana
That’s a fact.

Steven Placey
Yes, dear life, right. Just ask her the best years of his life. And so you know, and they just, they have their own podcast, they have their own thing. You probably know, Jana, maybe even from her radio time. I’ll let her talk about that. So I want to dive into, you know, also, hold on, pause here. And I’ll, we’ll do an edit. I have a good editor for a reason. Yeah.

Jana
Because you probably know Jason from Jason janas. Husband. Right. That’s how most people know Jason Yeah. Right.

Steven Placey
So So, you know, and they have this great program called Living lucky. And we’re going to tap into that as well. So So Jana and Jason, welcome. Tell us a little bit about who you are and what you guys are doing, please.

Jana
Well, you mentioned positivity. And yes, that is what people know us for they know is for joyfulness for happiness for positivity. But there’s a reason that we have become that and it’s because we went through a really dark time together. So many people know me as Jana banana from real Radio 104 point one. I was a radio personality here in Orlando, Florida. And I absolutely loved loved loved my job because I literally got to tell stories for a living. I got to sit with four of my best friends every single day for four hours and talk about politics about cultural events about zits on our backs, bathroom humor. Yeah, it’s on Jason’s back.

Jason
That way, oh,

Unknown Speaker
yeah.

Jana
And then I hit a point in my life around 38 where I just started feeling like something was missing. But I couldn’t put it into words and the more I started to search for it, it just became it became a dark By role, and I thought, well, maybe I just need more money, maybe I need need a promotion, maybe I need, you know, a change in my career maybe, but still in the radio realm. And the more I would ask for those things, I would go in and talk to the big boss and say, Hey, I deserve more. I would get things like you know what, Jana, you’re just too good where you are? Or do you know how many people would do your job for free? Or the one that I the one that I liked the most is, is my big boss who sounded a little bit like Kermit the Frog, he would say, we pay you in sunshine, you live here in Florida? And I would think, Oh, yeah. And it would just it would, it would almost incite this visceral response in my gut. And I remember the last time he told me that, I actually went to the grocery store. And as I was checking out, the checkout person said, Do you have any coupons? And I said, in a very snarky voice, do you take cube or sunshine coupons? Because my boss pays me and sunshine?

Steven Placey
Yeah, you know, me being a smart Alice smart asset? Well, if I move to like Seattle, where it’s never Sunny, would you pay me a lot more?

Jason
There you go, right.

Steven Placey
Can we trade? Like, can we trade that off? Because trading this hammer, get a little drink of water? And I’ll be back right after this brief message?

Steven Placey
Hey, Steven here and how are you results so far in 2021? are you kicking some profit goal, but like we are, we had record months in January in February? Or are you just having so so or you like, man not doing well? Well, let me tell you something, you deserve to have a great business that’s going out there and having record months, the key is not waiting any longer to make it happen. You don’t have to have all the answers yourself, you can get help. So there’s two things I have for you, right now you can do. If you’re a more of a Type B personality, you kind of just want to look over some stuff, go download my unconventional strategies for 2021 that’ll help you go make some marketing moves that most people aren’t doing, but they should be doing, it’ll help you rock your profits go get that free download, check that out great stuff. If you’re more of a type A personality, really like Steve, I don’t want to read any more stuff. I don’t want to listen any more stuff. I just need someone to help me find out what I’m doing wrong, or what I should be doing. And give me some solutions that are particular to my business. So if that’s you go set a discovery call where you and I can talk, we’ll look inside your business uncover things, again, that you might be doing that you shouldn’t be or that you’re not doing that you should be. And we’ll uncover profit centers to help you go kick some profit goal, but you deserve it. The worst thing you can do is keep waiting and getting just average results. isn’t a time to go kicks are profitable. But go set your discovery call now. I’d love to innovate some ideas for you. Again, you could do that right on the Steve placey.com website. That’s STV PLACY. I look forward to talking with you.

Jana
Long story short, I decided to quit my job. And when I did that, I realized that my identity was wrapped up in my career. And not only that, my friends, my family, my creativity, my I just my whole being was janome banana. And so when I left that position, I was lost. I didn’t know what I wanted. I didn’t know who I was I people would say well follow your curiosity. I didn’t know what I liked. I didn’t know what color. I didn’t know. People say well, you know, what do you Google? What do you what just automatically follow? What do you find yourself dreaming about? Well, I wasn’t dreaming, I was mourning my my being of who I was. But what I found is you kind of have to let go of who you are in order for you to find who you will become. So I started doing a lot of work. And I started doing a lot of introspection and deep, deep clinical work on myself. And like I said it was a very, very dark time for Jason and myself. What a time that I probably wouldn’t want to go through again. But it’s in those really, really depressed and despair moments. When we find the magic and that’s what happened to us.

Jana
It was a soul workout, a soul heart Mind Body Workout. That was done from a hybrid net of state Kind of

Jana
yes to the point where I mean, I couldn’t get out of bed. I could not get out of bed. And and so then I started dreaming and scheming. And I started imagining what Where do I want my life to go? Who do I want to be here I am laying in bed thinking, you know what? I’m a three time Paralympian. I’m a gold medalist. I am a radio personality that’s very well known in this community. I’m at the top of my game, How did I end up here, and now I’m laying in bed, I don’t have enough energy to brush my teeth. I don’t have enough energy to wash my hair. And the last thing I want to do is leave my house because people are asking me so what are you up to these days? And I don’t have an answer for that. Because I don’t I don’t know. I don’t know who I am.

Steven Placey
And let’s pause there for a second because I mean, you you’re just dropping so many great value bombs here and nuggets. It’s, it’s something you said, you know, you got to let go of who you were to realize who you know, and, and I just love that. It’s, it’s the you know, there’s another thing that pops in my head that I saw the other day was like, you know, the past doesn’t need you. But your future does. Like your, you gotta you can’t put energy backwards. Right, you got to put your energy forward. So I just love that. And, you know, I think there’s another point that that you said, his, you know, Facebook is his quote unquote, supposedly real life? Well, people, right, yeah, right. And I see a couple of we’re doing it’s doing this through video as well. We see laughing on the other screens, because it’s not. Okay, not people are going through shit all the time. Okay. And they’re only showing you the positive things. Okay? Hey, I think I’m a pretty positive person. I know I’m a positive person. I through a lot of things, you show me pictures of my puppies, I show you this, I’m not gonna put that I have a bad day on Sunday.

Jana
Well, it’s like a it’s like a family picture of just picture two parents, four or five kids, even two or three kids. And they’re getting that family Christmas picture together. Now you know that leading up to that you’re trying to get them at all organized and arrange the screaming, it’s hot, it’s cold, whatever. But getting everybody together, posed for that picture. It’s it’s a ordeal. Don’t the pictures great.

Steven Placey
Don’t even talk to me about that our Christmas, or Christmas card or family Christmas card was awful. It was little pictures. Because out of the 40 that we tried to take with my teenagers that didn’t turn out well at all.

Jana
We’re just like on Facebook,

Steven Placey
we’re using the right we got to get them out. Right.

Jana
Some people will use a bad one, just as comic relief. But the good one is the one that goes out. And people are judging themselves off that good picture that they see on the Instagram and the good picture that they see on Facebook and Twitter. And that’s because

Jana
we have comparison itis Yeah, right. We all do it. And we compare our worst attributes to other people’s best attributes. And the reason we do that is because that’s the only facade they are showing us. And I know this from experience, because that’s what I was doing on the radio. I was janome banana, jovial, happy, fluffy Jana banana. But once you started to peel the layers of that banana, you found that deep down, there was some sadness, there was some deep resentment, there was some anger that was hidden and suppressed way down there. And that was part of my introspective journey was not only diving in there, but working through some of those layers and realizing that you know what, this is all because of not only suppressed feelings over the lifetime that I have had, but also from stories that I’ve told myself, or stories that the culture has told me. And they’ve they’ve stuck inside my my subconscious over the years stories that aren’t necessarily true.

Steven Placey
Yeah, I mean, I’d love to hear I mean, I would love examples of that. Like, Hey,

Jana
I’ll give you an example. Yeah, I’m a paraplegic. I’ve been a paraplegic for 30 years. I was in a car accident at age 15. I probably hear on an average of once a day, at least once a day. Jelena You’re such an inspiration. I can go to the grocery store, I can be get buying bread, or I can be buying toothpaste. Jana, You are such an inspiration. It’s followed up by you know, I thought my life was crap. And then I look at you what What are they really saying? What are people really saying? What are people saying and their intentions are good people’s intentions are so good. You know, they want to say, you, you inspire me. But when you really stop and start dissecting what the sentences are inspiration, what causes that is actually an invoke action of guilt. It’s guilt in people. So if you inspire someone,

Jana
what do I What am I complaining about? She’s got it so bad, her life is horrible. And here I am complaining in my corner.

Steven Placey
Yeah, that’s, that blows me away,

Jana
which is crazy. Yeah, that’s so that’s the message that when you tell someone, you you inspire me, that’s kind of the message. That’s your those, your subconscious picks up.

Jana
And that’s partly that’s, that’s an incorrect perception on my part, as well. After being on the radio for so many years, we never talked about my disability. And so then when I would meet listeners who felt like they knew me, they felt like they knew me very, very intimately. And they knew stories about my life. They knew stories about my, my wedding, my marriage, they knew stories about my dogs and

Jana
patients.

Jana
Yes, I mean, going all sorts of things, you know, they really felt like they were a part of my life. And then when they would come to meet me for the first time, and they would see, oh, my gosh, you’re, you’re paralyzed.

Jana
Or it would just be the first the first words out of the mouth is what’s wrong with you?

Jana
What is wrong with you? And and,

Steven Placey
again, I’m like, why? I’m like flabbergasted like,

Jana
well, you have to think about this radio is theater of the mind. And people start to I mean, we did it last night, we did the exact same thing. We were in this clubhouse group. And last night, we all met on zoom for the first time. And it literally was, oh, I did not picture that person to look like that. You know, because they have a picture of themselves.

Steven Placey
The glamour shot picture. Yeah,

Jana
it’s the glamour shot years ago,

Jana
from eight years ago, and their little ski outfit going down a mountain. Right, right, right, that’s got a filter on it. And so even just the first we can just imagine the first time you were in the hospital with your injury, and people coming in and saying, Oh, you had such potential.

Jana
That’s a story that’s a false story, you know,

Jana
is at the top of our game, then head baton, twirler, cheerleader, all these things. And then as an adult coming into a 15 year old saying, you had such potential, inferring that now there is no potential now now that’s not what people that’s not what people mean. Now, I just want to make this very clear. People’s intentions are always are always good. It’s just matter over time. These were the stories that I had been telling myself. So these were the the issues that I needed to work through was just like so in my mind because we’ve we don’t have kids, but we’ve had kids come to the house at nine o’clock at night or at eight o’clock at night crying because they misinterpret what a parent has said. And it’s and it’s nothing, it’s nothing we haven’t heard ourselves. But as adults, we can think back and go well this is what your parent is, meaning just pay attention when you’re unloading the dishwasher. You know, pay attention if it’s full of water, don’t go sling in the cup around the house and then putting in the pantry upside down and putting water in the pantry empty down in the sink or emptied out in the dishwasher. It’s not that you’re foolish or not paying attention in life that you’re not a screw up all over just pay attention be focused be present where you are because that will serve you as an adult and as a team

Steven Placey
well and i think it’s it’s a it’s a mental toughness yeah it’s a if you’re in business if you’re in it well I mean don’t even in business in life whatever. I mean there’s you have to have a some level of thick skin you know, but but I unders i mean i get it 100 million I don’t get get at all and I don’t ever say all the right things all the time. And I

Jana
agreed to you are the exception to the oil.

Jana
You have your glasses off only glasses off. You say the right things all the time though. When your heart can’t sometimes you say stupid things.

Steven Placey
No, I simply have these so I can do the dramatic. You know, I mean that’s good. Why I do I do a dramatic smolder when I have to really say something Important as I have right now, we need to talk about like, the rest of the story.

Jana
My boss used to do that with his headphones, he would yank off his headphones when he was really upset. So,

Steven Placey
so, yeah, so it’s funny. It’s heavy in life. I mean, this is, this is what it’s all about. You have to have humor in life because there’s a lot of wonderful people out there and there’s a bunch of angels. It’s okay. You know, it doesn’t matter. You can’t smell them. You can’t. You can’t definitely thank God, we can’t do that. But the things you throw out there, I thought you

Jana
can smell the difference between the good people in the holes.

Jana
Jason, do you want me to rip off these headphones?

Steven Placey
off the headphones now? Jason right. So So anyway, but what’s your middle name? So we can say your three names and then you know you’re really in trouble. I know I trouble so exhibit. been locked out? Put in your pocket. So you don’t you don’t have kids? But that’s the thing in kindergarten, zip it, lock it. Throw it in your pocket. Keep the kids nice. Do

Jana
you know that in kindergarten? That’s how I got my nickname Jana banana?

Steven Placey
No. Tell us that.

Jana
Yes, first day of kindergarten

Jana
heroes lasted for 32 years.

Jana
He knows the worst day of my life. Because they showed up. I’m from a really, really small town so small, that I had both of my parents as teachers.

Jason
And so for a date and a horse and buggy stop.

Jana
You’re hijacking my story.

Steven Placey
There was a first generating electricity over here on a little

Jana
while I learned about that yesterday. That’s why I prefer that in their

Jana
first day of kindergarten. My mom was my music teacher. And she said Get over here Jana banana, and the whole class laughed. They thought that was hilarious. And I did not. And I went home and I cried about it and said, Mom, how could you said that in front of everybody. And then on the second day of kindergarten, we went around the room and we tried to remember everyone’s names and nobody could remember anyone’s name. Except for Jana banana,

Steven Placey
that was it there. That was the name. The rest is history.

Jana
Yeah. So he got a crown right? Then

Jana
it actually worked in my advantage. And that seems to be a theme in my life. The things that I perceive to be the worst things that have ever happened to me end up being the gems in my life.

Steven Placey
Keep going, I want to hear more.

Jana
Well, it just so happens that that’s how I got hired then at the radio station is I had sent my resume to the radio station a couple different times, and no response while 13 until I happened to be listening to Jim Phillips in the Philips file one day and I heard him say, you know, we’re looking for someone, and you can’t just send us a resume like, like everyone else, you have to stand out a little bit, you have to give us something that makes us remember you. And right when he said that I was driving by a planet smoochie. And sure enough, they had this person in a banana costume out on the street going like this. And it just took me right back to the first day of kindergarten or the second day of kindergarten. And I thought he’ll remember Janna banana. And so I bought a bunch of bananas and I tied my resume to the bananas. And I delivered it to the station.

Jana
Now she dressed up all the other bananas as Moira jack Otto and Jim. That’s awesome. And,

Jana
and I got an interview within two minutes.

Steven Placey
No kidding. I love it.

Jana
That and get out of the parking lot.

Steven Placey
I love that. stand out. Show your personality.

Jana
Dan, out

Steven Placey
of this podcast. Do you guys I don’t know if you I’m sure you guys have listened to every podcast we’ve ever done. But we say this all the time. It is like look, show your personality. show who you are. Okay. Like if you go if there’s a room of like 100 people standing there. And there’s like a guy in a gray shoe a gray suit. There’s people over there just standing there. Did you see that person in that like gigantic red dress? You know with a big flower on it and a big hat? Who do you want to go talk to? You know who that’s like the vibrant personality like I have to talk to that person.

Jana
I want to talk to the guy and let Clark Clark Kent glasses. Yes,

Jason
right reminded me of the headdress ball. But so 10 years later, we’re driving around Orlando in a big banana car driven by a guy from the UK. It’s the banana theme has been through our whole lives. And that’s why we ended up with the living lucky logo as a golden band.

Jana
And it’s so funny you bring that up Jason because then while I was deepen my depression. We happen to be at church. And we had this guest speaker one day. And he happened to be talking about he was telling a story. And he said that he needed a tambourine. And he was looking for one and the only one he could find it was shaped like a banana.

Jason
But he said it looking right at you.

Jana
And and so he said, he was on stage shaking this banana. And anyway, he was he was telling the story. And then later after the performance, he opened up his Chinese, he had a Chinese cookie. And he opened it up. And sure enough, the the message or the little wish, inside the Chinese cookie had message and then on the back of it had your lucky word. And it was

Unknown Speaker
banana

Jana
stolen, he had this shirt on it that said, tell your story. And we were sitting on the front row at church, when this all happened. And I was deep in my depression. And it just felt

Jana
but he had literally pointed right at

Jana
Yeah. And he was like, and he was like, he looked at us. And he goes, and guess what was on that Chinese? What do you call those things? Chinese

Jana
fortune cookie, fortune cookie taking a very political stance here.

Steven Placey
Fortune Cookie, he goes

Jana
in guess what was on that fortune cookie? And then he like pretends he’s opening up and he said, banana? And then of course everyone laughs and he literally had this T shirt on and it said, tell your story.

Steven Placey
So how were you telling your story now? I mean, like that, that’s like, amazing. I don’t even know, I don’t even know where to go with that. Like, that’s insanity to me. So like, how are you using this? How are you telling your story? How are you helping people now.

Jana
So Jason and I, we call it living lucky. Because we really feel that there’s four pillars to living lucky. And the way that I got out of my dark place. And as I started to really study my life, I realized that my life has been up and down. And every time I am in a dark place, this is the method that I use to catapult me to the next stratosphere. It starts with showing up with yourself, you have to believe in yourself. And when you do that, when you start becoming your own accountability partner, when you start really doing the work. And that means if you say you’re going to work out, you have to work out if you say you’re going to meditate, you have to meditate, you need to journal, you need to I mean, we have a seven, seven things that we started doing everyday, we started getting up at 4am in the morning, and we just started going through a morning routine, and I became a non canceller. If I said I was gonna do something, I did it in as you start showing up for yourself and believing in yourself, then it takes you to pillar number two, which is you start attracting people around you that start going, what are they doing, because I want some of that. And then as they start coming around you, you realize, you know what, I can help these people. Not only can I help them, but they are here to teach me. So you start believing in each other, and it almost becomes teamwork. And as you climb together, you all start to rise. And I learned that through my playing basketball and being on teams. And as I started to really study my life, I realized you know what, when I’m really at my best people around me start getting better. And it’s one reason why I’m always on winning teams. I’m a gold medalist, it’s reason why I’m on winning teams. So you believe in yourself, then you believe in the people around you. And then the third pillar is you start finding gratitude in your circumstances, you start appreciating the adversity. What do I mean by that? Yes, many people do a gratitude journal. Many people find gratitude in the things that are around them in things every day. I take it a step further. I find radical gratitude, radical gratitude. I find gratitude in the shitty things. And excuse me, if I’m not supposed to say that, because I think if you find gratitude in shit, then the S is literally your moneymaker. And the H is a hashtag because that’s how you’re going to connect with people. And if you can find gratitude in it, which we all have experiences where we think you know what, that’s crap. Like, why did that have to happen to me? Well, you know what happens to you for a reason happens for you, it happened for you. And if you can find gratitude in it, then it’s going to take you to pillar number four, which is the universe is working through you, for you, and by you. And when you start realizing that, you’ll start noticing that opportunities will start coming in your way, and you just start expecting, you start expecting success. It’s almost like

Jana
it changes you from swimming upstream in life to swimming downstream, and you just pick up,

Jana
it’s getting that snowball, from going to the snowball of despair, to the snowball of abundance, I love that and everything just starts working for you. You know, and

Steven Placey
this is, this is amazing. And I want to spend a little more time on each one of these as well. Because I love this as these four pillars. And I mean, just think about it. Those of you listening, think about it. And I and you know me, I’m always focused on the business side. Well, not always, but Yeah, you are. Okay, let’s talk about the business side. Now I’ll take off my glasses for that dramatic part. on the business side. So it’s, you know, that if you’re not putting energy out, the phone stops ringing, you know it, you can say it, you’re not putting energy out, you’re not marketing, you’re not out there talking, we see it, activity we keep, we keep a full pipeline. But I can see that pipeline dip a little bit, when I’m not doing my videos, when I’m not doing my podcast, when I’m not out there talking. It’s energy out energy in, it’s the way the world works. It’s simple. If I mean, there’s even laws of physics that talk about it, you know, equal and opposite energies, I mean, it’s just the way it is equal and opposite forces. I mean, excuse me, you know, so it’s, so don’t send me text, I got that wrong, when

Jana
you start creating this vortex is what happens, and you almost get on this upward spiral. And, you know, you talk about action. So I’m a paraplegic. And what I have realized about myself is that I have become a genius, when it comes to using my imagination. And that can be a double edged sword. So I have to really be careful that I’m using it for positive and then I’m putting out into the world exactly what i what i want to create, because what happens in our mind will become our reality. However, the other part of that is you do once you start imagining it. And once you start deciding what your y is, you, you will automatically start finding this motivation that comes comes from deep within. And when you feel that motivation, that’s the universe saying, okay, you found your purpose. Now, it’s time to act, and you have to you have to put the energy behind it,

Jana
you have to do the doing,

Jana
you have to do the doing.

Steven Placey
I mean, you know, the way we look at it, a little saying I have is ideas without execution is called dreaming. And dreaming is fantastic. You know, and, and I’ve even heard someone say, and I don’t make a lot of biblical references, but there’s one I remember deeply is that, you know, someone told me one time, I said something like that, and they said, Well, yeah, Steve, it’s like this. Because, you know, the Lord may inspire you. But you have to lift your foot up, and move it forward, he’ll guide your foot, but he will not lift your foot to moving forward. You know, and I and that to me stuff. Big time. You know, so it’s, it’s all about what you do. There’s no question about it. I agree. And, and stop blaming everybody else.

Jana
Yes. And I what you just said is perfect. He. So yes, I feel like he almost will use you as a vessel. But you have to be willing to say, yes, use me. Yes, use me. I’m here to, to do how you have to give, you have to surrender the outcome. And you have to be willing to bring the energy. That’s what you have to do. Yeah. And in doing that, I’m so sorry, Jason, I don’t mean to cut you off. But then the last thing that you just said, is to stop blaming people because that’s a victim mentality. But when you when you start appreciating everything around you, your circumstances and the people that you’ve attracted into your life, what happens is you realize that no matter what the outcome is, whether it is super successful, or whether it is perceived as Oh, you know what, maybe that didn’t turn out exactly the way I wanted it to. You realize you can’t fail because no matter what happens the universe is working for you. And it’s propelling you in the direction that you need to go. And so when you realize that, then you start getting out of your own way, and you start operating just slightly outside of that comfort zone, it’s really miraculous,

Jana
I’ll pass it over. That’s it, it’s about kind of releasing that expectation, because really, what you can control is your actions. And when you can control your actions, just like an airplane, it’s gonna get off course a little bit. But when you keep making those micro adjustments, you’re gonna land where you need to land. So when you when you know what your end goal is, just like in business was Stephen was talking about it, I know what my end goal is, I can plan accordingly. And make micro adjustments every single day or every moment. And I don’t have to tweak a lot and make these huge, sometimes you do have to make huge adjustments because you were asleep at the wheel. But if you are focused on your business are focused on your life, day to day, and you can make micro adjustments, which is a lot less painful. And you’re living on the edge of your comfort zone instead of crushing your ecosystem and making huge adjustments. But sometimes you need that huge change. It’s Yeah,

Steven Placey
sometimes there’s a I mean, there’s a there’s a paradigm shift that maybe did maybe need to happen. You know, I mean, there’s there’s a lot of things that can happen. And but

Jana
you’ll know when that when that comes up. It’s specific for each person, individual. And one thing that I’ve learned is most of us all have the same questions. But everybody has a different answer. Sure. All the all the answers are in us already. We just have to get deep within us to find them. Right.

Steven Placey
Yeah. And let me also add on top of that, is be open to other people’s answers. Yeah. Okay, be open to other people’s answers. And I’m gonna tell you ego has kept people broke and down for centuries. Like, like, literally, I’m gonna say this is I always had, I always had female roommates, I had one male roommate in college, and I had all the rest female roommates, simply because I’m not an ego guy. You know, I’m not in the machismo and wanting to fight and all this stuff all the time. Like, that’s don’t like that, to me is don’t make sense. Again, and I see that he got my my ex roommate in trouble. That’s you. Hopefully, if you’re listening, buddy, sorry, but it did. You know. And so I don’t think he listens, but whatever. But I just, I just always got a little better with women. Because a lot of men have that munchies. I know, Jason, you don’t worry about that. Either. You’re not? You know, you’re not that guy.

Jason
I just don’t care.

Steven Placey
Yeah, just whatever. I just, well, it’s it’s true. I agree.

Jason
The thing is, I just want to learn from as many people as possible, right? Because even if, and one thing is I never, I never understood the value of a coach. Like I had them all growing up through sports and everything. And I it made sense in sports. And I never understood the value of a coach just in life, you know, but when I when a marriage, Jana, and then I started seeing you know what, she helps me see the blind spots. And sometimes you can look at a lot of people and I think this is one of the big problems with where divorce comes from, is they see a wife as a nag or a spouse as a nag or, yeah, but, but that’s a communication issue, I think, and a lot of people will say, you just have to listen to what’s being said as opposed to how it’s being said and some and maybe you need to discuss that issue that you’re having between each other. But one thing that we have is she’s helping me see blind spots. And she’s a great coach. But she’s not my only coach. I’ve got several coaches for different areas of my life because everyone needs coaches to help them see blind spots and like you were saying about don’t discount other people’s ideas or or what other people tell you because Jana says idea sex all the time. I forget James Jones

Steven Placey
idea idea sex Remember that?

Jana
Because that’s how your imagination works. It here’s one thing it puts another idea with it they have sex and it comes out to be something genius. And now you just need things are are built.

Steven Placey
You just gave it away. I was gonna say you got to subscribe to the podcast because we’ll do another one on idea sex and I was gonna leave them hanging like that.

Jana
Idea orgy because no, that’s a new one.

Steven Placey
Yeah, there you go. What do you get all kinds of people’s ideas

Jana
that you can edit that out there.

Steven Placey
That out so so we’re all adults here. Come on, have fun in life or God. Whoo. You know, so it.

Jana
Actually, let me ask you this, Stephen, because this is my new thing. What about using ideas as currency?

Jason
That’s what I’m talking about. Throw the wallet out the window, baby.

Steven Placey
Well, it is I mean Well, isn’t that isn’t that what coaches do? What is it? Well, let me say that isn’t that

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